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a***@live.co.uk
2013-02-22 19:57:38 UTC
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For the last few months I get a balloon pop up telling me to upgrade to a new version of java 6 - apart from one in September telling me of java 7 which I ignored till the next day when it said to upgrade java 6.
Java SE 6 Update 35 2012-08-30 Contains a security-in-depth fix[65]
Java SE 7 Update 7 2012-08-30 4 security fixes
Actually I think it was 17th June 2012 when i got balloon for 7u05 and 18th june 2012 when I got balloon for 6u33, looking at the screenshots I saved.
Java SE 6 Update 33 2012-06-12 14 security fixes, improved VM configuration file loading.
Java SE 7 Update 5 2012-06-12 14 security fixes
so maybe if i cancel today's update for 7u15 like I did in June it'll show me the update for 6u41 ?
Today is the 22nd and that was 2 days ago but I've had no automatic update service reminder for 6u41. Maybe tommorrow?

C:\Documents and Settings\user\Local Settings\Temp\jusched.log
Fri Feb 22 15:26:27 2013
:: JavaUpdate NextSchedTime=Sat Feb 23 10:59:00 2013
JavaFXUpdate NextSchedTime=Thu Feb 28 22:36:00 2013
JavaUpdatelastSchedTime=Sat Feb 16 10:59:00 2013
JavaUpdatenextSchedTime=Sat Feb 23 10:59:00 2013
JavaUpdatesleeptime (sec=70354, hours=19, days=0.81)
actual sleep time=70354000 msecs (19:32:34) for JavaUpdate
Roedy Green
2013-02-24 08:15:00 UTC
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Post by a***@live.co.uk
Today is the 22nd and that was 2 days ago but I've had no automatic update service reminder for 6u41. Maybe tommorrow?
I don't think I have ever had an update notice, but then I do an
automated check twice a day for a new version with Vercheck. Oracle
may delay the announcement to the general public to avoid swamping
their servers and to give the programmers a kick at the new version
first to make sure there are no show stoppers.

1.7.0_15 has important security updates. If you need help downloading,
installing or configuring see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html
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The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
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Whiffy
2013-03-02 01:50:04 UTC
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Post by Roedy Green
Post by a***@live.co.uk
Today is the 22nd and that was 2 days ago but I've had no automatic update service reminder for 6u41. Maybe tommorrow?
I don't think I have ever had an update notice, but then I do an
automated check twice a day for a new version with Vercheck. Oracle
may delay the announcement to the general public to avoid swamping
their servers and to give the programmers a kick at the new version
first to make sure there are no show stoppers.
1.7.0_15 has important security updates. If you need help downloading,
installing or configuring see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
~ Robert R. Coveyou (born: 1915 died: 1996-02-19 at age: 80)
From: "Whi" <ad live.co.uk>
Post by a***@live.co.uk
I got a balloon pop up about an hour ago. I was expecting it would say to
update to the
latest java 6 (like last summer) with 6u41 but instead it said 7u15.
So as the balloon has insisted 7u15 twice in a row (last time was on
Wednesday), i updated
to 7u15.
Checked the rain animation http://www.cwdjr.net/java/rain/rain.html
and I now get the security warning, which i didn't before.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/7u15-relnotes-1907738.html
"Auto-update and update through Java Control Panel of JRE 6 will replace JRE
6 with JRE 7"
http://www.jac64.com/games/play-3.html
Playing this java Commodore 64 Commando game it has a fault for me in that you have to press the fire (left mouse) button at same time as left cursor just so that the sprite can walk left.

Same for other people?
Whiffy
2013-03-03 02:03:42 UTC
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Post by Roedy Green
Post by a***@live.co.uk
Today is the 22nd and that was 2 days ago but I've had no automatic update service reminder for 6u41. Maybe tommorrow?
I don't think I have ever had an update notice, but then I do an
automated check twice a day for a new version with Vercheck. Oracle
may delay the announcement to the general public to avoid swamping
their servers and to give the programmers a kick at the new version
first to make sure there are no show stoppers.
1.7.0_15 has important security updates. If you need help downloading,
installing or configuring see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jdk.html
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
~ Robert R. Coveyou (born: 1915 died: 1996-02-19 at age: 80)
I've just looked in my spam folder showing a copy of my last posting in this thread!. I notice when I reply to you its Cc to your invalid email address. Explain?
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From: Mail Delivery Subsystem (mailer-***@google.com)
Sent: 02 March 2013 01:50:06 GMT
To: @live.co.uk

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

***@mindprod.com.invalid

Technical details of permanent failure:
DNS Error: Domain name not found

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Roedy Green
2013-03-05 22:15:08 UTC
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I've just looked in my spam folder showing a copy of my last posting in thi=
s thread!. I notice when I reply to you its Cc to your invalid email addres=
s. Explain?=20
It says see-***@mindprod.com.invalid

The .invalid suffix in the official way warns you this is not a valid
email. I don't want to post it is a way to make it easy for spam
harvesters. However if you visit my website mindprod.com
you will find out my true email address presented in form generated
by the Masker utility that makes it harder for spam harvesters to
collect.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
One thing I love about having a website, is that when I complain about
something, I only have to do it once. It saves me endless hours of
grumbling.
Whiffy
2013-03-19 02:18:07 UTC
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Post by Roedy Green
I've just looked in my spam folder showing a copy of my last posting in thi=
s thread!. I notice when I reply to you its Cc to your invalid email addres=
s. Explain?=20
The .invalid suffix in the official way warns you this is not a valid
email. I don't want to post it is a way to make it easy for spam
harvesters. However if you visit my website mindprod.com
you will find out my true email address presented in form generated
by the Masker utility that makes it harder for spam harvesters to
collect.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
One thing I love about having a website, is that when I complain about
something, I only have to do it once. It saves me endless hours of
grumbling.
http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp
tells me I have the latest java 7u17

I just click on one of your webpages for a java whois applet
http://mindprod.com/applet/available.html
but its warning me that its untrusted and will have unrestricted access. Can anyone assure me its ok?

This java applet (that tells the time) just asks for permission as normal
http://time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5/java
Roedy Green
2013-03-21 03:26:03 UTC
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Post by Whiffy
I just click on one of your webpages for a java whois applet
http://mindprod.com/applet/available.html
but its warning me that its untrusted and will have unrestricted access. Can anyone assure me its ok?
download the source and see if shows any signs of malice.

Google it and see if anyone has been harmed by it.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Every method you use to prevent or find bugs leaves a residue of subtler
bugs against which those methods are ineffectual.
~ Bruce Beizer Pesticide Paradox
Whiffy
2013-03-22 00:26:44 UTC
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Post by Roedy Green
Post by Whiffy
I just click on one of your webpages for a java whois applet
http://mindprod.com/applet/available.html
but its warning me that its untrusted and will have unrestricted access. Can anyone assure me its ok?
download the source and see if shows any signs of malice.
Google it and see if anyone has been harmed by it.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com
Every method you use to prevent or find bugs leaves a residue of subtler
bugs against which those methods are ineffectual.
~ Bruce Beizer Pesticide Paradox
Thanks, you reminded me of some security websites
http://www.urlvoid.com/scan/mindprod.com/
http://www.unmaskparasites.com/security-report/
which seemed to come up clean

I installed a program a few weeks ago I think - Audacity?. I think the author said he'd have to pay a fee for a security certicate. Is this so in your case?

Anyway I click "I accept the risk and want to run this application" and I see no harm done.

On a side note, the java Available program says "ping not reachable" for all the URLs i type in like amazon.com google.com wambooli.com mindprod.com DOS ping working for them. So that's my Windows XP firewall then, I suppose. Don't why the difference.
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